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Fallout 4 Like Artificial Intelligence?

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DeadlyKitten
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Fallout 4 Like Artificial Intelligence?

Post by DeadlyKitten » Thu Jan 14, 2021 1:51 pm

Hi. I REALLY like Tale Of Two Wastelands, with its great exploration and role-playing, but after coming back from Fallout 4, the NPC and creature artificial intelligence seem positively... lacking (in my opinion, Fallout 4 is inferior to TTW in practically every other way). I'm searched and searched online, but it seems no one has made an artificial intelligence mod for New Vegas/TTW which emulates Fallout 4's. Is this possible?

And if so, is anyone here willing to create such a mod for me? I'm willing to pay if necessary.

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Re: Fallout 4 Like Artificial Intelligence?

Post by RoyBatty » Thu Jan 14, 2021 11:07 pm

AI is lacking how? I didn't find Fallout 4's particularly stellar.
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Re: Fallout 4 Like Artificial Intelligence?

Post by Death_Reaper56 » Thu Jan 14, 2021 11:39 pm

You do know 3 and New Vegas are old games,right? As in,both came out in 2008 and 2010 respectively? As much progress as modding has made,there's no way in hell someone was able to do something like this.

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Re: Fallout 4 Like Artificial Intelligence?

Post by DeadlyKitten » Fri Jan 15, 2021 6:34 am

Well, do you play with a Chinese Stealth Armor mod and spend much of your time invisible? I noticed that Fallout 4 AI is much better against an unseen opponent than TTW's. For one, if you shoot, they will shoot back in the general direction for a while if they could not see you. And if you're hit, they instantly detect you.

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Re: Fallout 4 Like Artificial Intelligence?

Post by RoyBatty » Sun Jan 17, 2021 1:20 am

That's not good AI at all... :D
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Re: Fallout 4 Like Artificial Intelligence?

Post by DeadlyKitten » Sun Jan 17, 2021 2:54 am

RoyBatty wrote:
Sun Jan 17, 2021 1:20 am
That's not good AI at all... :D
Hi, Roybatty. I admit that's not ideal, but that at least is better than Fallout 3's and New Vegas' run towards the general direction and getting shot multiple times along the way. Don't you agree?

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Re: Fallout 4 Like Artificial Intelligence?

Post by Risewild » Sun Jan 17, 2021 7:21 am

Over the years that have been many "AI improving" mods. They are all buggy one way or another. Many cause giant bloat, lag, freezing and crash the game during combat.

Basically, AI improvement mods are a mess and shouldn't be used.

The closest mod to the one you asked for, that I found was Enhanced NPC Awareness, but just a quick look at the comments section shows that it suffers from most or all the problems I mentioned... Definitely not worth installing it.
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Re: Fallout 4 Like Artificial Intelligence?

Post by DeadlyKitten » Sun Jan 17, 2021 8:01 am

Risewild wrote:
Sun Jan 17, 2021 7:21 am
Over the years that have been many "AI improving" mods. They are all buggy one way or another. Many cause giant bloat, lag, freezing and crash the game during combat.

Basically, AI improvement mods are a mess and shouldn't be used.

The closest mod to the one you asked for, that I found was Enhanced NPC Awareness, but just a quick look at the comments section shows that it suffers from most or all the problems I mentioned... Definitely not worth installing it.
Oh, okay. Thanks for the info, but the reason I asked here is because you guys know more about Fallout New Vegas' engine better than any other modder out there. I have this feeling that you guys can make it. Is this correct? Would like to hear your response. Thanks.

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Re: Fallout 4 Like Artificial Intelligence?

Post by RoyBatty » Wed Jan 27, 2021 7:42 am

If AI leeroys, its because there is no cover edges in navmesh, or because their AI flag is set to "foolhardy". Mistake of developers, not the AI code.
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Re: Fallout 4 Like Artificial Intelligence?

Post by xechostormx » Sat Jan 30, 2021 7:33 am

I was just talking to my wife about this. I'm in the museum of technology in recon armor with a stealth suit and I was really impressed how well they reacted to environmental factors and that when i did something to make noise, the Super Mutants were pretty keen on figuring out where I was. Not even a half hour ago I commented... "why are they so much smarter in 3 than they are in 4?" lol for sure not everything in 4 is an improvement with the AI.

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